[livejournal.com profile] angua9 made an interesting post a couple of days ago about appreciation vs appropriation of canon. (Briefly, appreciators enjoy it as is and if it stops being enjoyable, they wander off, while appropriators become attached to one aspect of it, or to the fanon, to the point where the canon disappoints them and the post screeds of complaint, or in extreme cases, wed Snape on the astral plane.

I fear I may have slightly appropriated Doctor Who recently, or in other words become one of a new breed of rapid Martha fen. Or possibly Last of the Time Lords was a complete stinker of an episode, down there with Love and Monsters.

Things in LotTL that I'm throwing out of my personal canon:

Spoilers )

Normally I'm more of an appreciator than an appropriator, or, as the Harmoanians or Draco-in-leather brigade would call me, a sheep. I mostly ship with what I think is the canon, and my fanfics are mainly fill-in-the-gaps, might have happened off-screen shorts.

However, I've just noticed that I'm more of an appropriator when the canon is many-authored: Lord of the Rings (book) or Harry Potter I just read and discuss, I don't even fanfic much, whereas with a TV series like Doctor Who or Battlestar Galactica it seems much easier to say "I'm going to quietly ignore episode X-after all, the writers dropped plotline Y and forgot about it two series ago." Also, the quality of TV series varies much more than a series of books by the same author. Films, like Potc, are somewhere in between, and Star Wars is a bit unusual: all the six films are canon (and I don't care that much when Han shot), but I throw out the books except for any interesting world-building I want to use in fic, and I've written a long original character fic that 's happening just off-screen. I suppose I appreciate the Skywalkers' story, but I've appropriated their world.

New Who is especially easy, because in a way it's fanon: Rusty and Co are fans who have got the opportunity to make a giant fanvid of the original series, complete with Mary Sues.
Gakked from everyone, practically:

Name a character and I'll give you three or more "facts" from my personal fanon about that character.

My fandoms: Doctor Who, Star Wars, Harry Potter, BSG, assorted SF and children's books (check my interests), probably some others I've forgotten....

Metafandom

Jul. 5th, 2005 09:47 pm
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My family have bought a popcorn-making machine. I can't decide whether it looks more like R2-D2 or like a Dalek.

I think I have an overdose of fandoms. Revenge of the Sith and HPHBP and shiny new Doctor Who, all in the space of four months or so? Waah, too much!

My OTPs

Jul. 1st, 2005 10:39 pm
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Was tagged by [livejournal.com profile] sarah531
1. Pick your 5 favorite OTPs
2. Find pictures and post them
3. Give the name of the OTP and what fandom they're from
4. List your favorite moment between them
5. Tag 5 people from your flist to do this meme

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Again, not tagging anyone.
My fandoms' main characters all seem to be two guys and a girl.
Luke, Leia, Han.
Harry, Ron, Hermione.
The Doctor, Rose, Jack (Well, not all the time, but that's the most interesting bit IMO).

Hmmm. Lord of the Rings doesn't fit this, though.

Answers!

Apr. 8th, 2005 10:24 am
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Answers to the favourite character meme

1. Star Wars: Luke. Anyone who didn't guess that wasn't paying enough attention to my moodtheme :-P
Who didn't love Luke when they first saw ANH? He has his own signature theme and everything. We get to watch him growing up into a Jedi. He's compassionate and courageous and loving and, as much as any fictional character I've ever seen, simply good.
From the Prequels, I think Anakin. Something like a traincrash, I know...

2. Harry Potter: Harry and Ginny, which one depending on my mood. Harry is a survivor. He keeps on fighting no matter what his world throws at him. And I love his dark, ironic humour. Ginny, also a survivor, has lived through possession by Voldemort and 15 years of being Fred and George's younger sister. The girl deserves kudos. But she's not just your stereotypical kick-arse fantasy-lit female; she actually, gasp, has a crush at the age of twelve, she cares for Ron and her friends.

3. Lord of the Rings: Frodo.
He sacrifices everything to save his world, and then he doesn't even get to enjoy it. Poor little hobbit.

4. Hornblower (books): Hornblower himself. Yes, at times I could cheerfully slap him into a wall, but he's interesting to read about. It's rather endearing the ways he's such a dork about anything other than ships and battles. And he likes mathematics, yay! However, person I'd most like to have around is the long-suffering Lt. Bush.

5. Discworld: Vimes. It's that blend of cynicism and sentimentalism that's so irresistible. Also, with other books, you often get Pterry the omniscient author bringing the funny, but it's Vimes-as-a-character whose words and thoughts are funny.

6. Jane Austen: Anne Elliot. She's a more interesting heroine than some of Austen's others because she herself has created the obstacle to her happiness. And she's quiet, not as confident and immediately engaging as Elizabeth or Emma, but she's strong.

7. Pirates of the Caribbean: Norrington. Jack steals his boat, and Will steals his girl. I can't help cheering for the underdog. Also, he has a cool accent, some lovely snarky lines, and a beeeautiful smile.

8. Antonia Forest: Nicola. I think we're supposed to like Nicola; it's quite hard not to. She's a fully-rounded, real person. And her naval/ships obssession is easy to sympathise with. I am amazed by the insight of [livejournal.com profile] ajhalluk, who not only guessed Nicola, but managed my second favourites, Patrick and Rowan. Rowan's amazingly competent, the person I'd like to be but amn't, and even her sole flaw, lack of tact, is amusing at times, and useful for messing with Ginty's head. As for Patrick, he has hawks and geeky books and has yellow eyes, which is just cool. In some ways he's quite mature for his age and in others, very young; an effect I suppose of being an only child. And between falling off cliffs, dead hawks, Ginty and his ghastly school (just call me Alan, indeed), he has a pretty rough run of it.

9. Patrick O'Brian: Stephen Maturin. He's such a geek. He can be a totally competent physician, naturalist and secret agent, and he's utterly useless at anything else. It's very endearing the way he can't tell port from starboard, but yet is so proud of using nautical terms (mostly wrong).


My little brother is almost finished Order of the Phoenix, and my sister is reading Terry Pratchett. She's working her way through the City Watch sequence. *hee*

Meme time!

Apr. 6th, 2005 07:53 pm
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Gakked from [livejournal.com profile] sarah531

a. Post a list of 15 fandoms. (tv shows, musicals, movies, books, etc.)
b. Have your friends list guess your favourite character/person from each one.
c. When guessed, bold the line, include the character/person name, and write a sentence about why you like that character/person.

I modified it to nine as I seem to have run out of fandoms.

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From [livejournal.com profile] hymnia:


Your results for Christian Traditions Selector

Find it here.

Rank Item Percent
1: Congregational/United Church of Christ (100%)
2: Presbyterian/Reformed (93%)
3: Baptist (Reformed/Particular/Calvinistic) (77%)
4: Church of Christ/Campbellite (54%)
5: Anglican/Episcopal/Church of England (53%)
6: Eastern Orthodox (50%)
7: Baptist (non-Calvinistic)/Plymouth Brethren/Fundamentalist (49%)
8: Methodist/Wesleyan/Nazarene (47%)
9: Lutheran (46%)
10: Seventh-Day Adventist (46%)
11: Roman Catholic (42%)
12: Anabaptist (Mennonite/Quaker etc.) (29%)
13: Pentecostal/Charismatic/Assemblies of God (19%)

I worked out that that reason it puts me as Congregational instead of Reformed is the one about losing salvation. 'No' gives you Congregational, 'Wrong question' gives you Presbyterian/Reformed. Hello, let me introduces the 5th point of Calvinism, the perseverance of the saints. I wanted an option that included 'You're asking the wrong question' and 'no'. Actually there were several questions where for the options given, none of them matched exactly what I believe.
The recent discussion on Hogwarts houses has reminded me of a subject I always meant to post on.

We've all discussed such things as where Mad-Eye Moody was sorted, what House had the dubious honour of producing Umbridge and so on, but one of my favourite pastimes in an idle moment is Sorting other fictional characters. I've seen other people do it, too. I suppose it's a neat and identifiable box, like Myers-Briggs-ing them.

So here's my take on my favourite fandoms. Feel free to disagree or to add your own. For the benefit of your ad hominem (sorry, [livejournal.com profile] fernwithy! ;) ) arguments, I self-identify as Ravenclaw with a Gryffindor streak.

Star Wars:
Palpatine is of course a Slytherin. I don't think anyone could argue with that.
The Skywalkers (plus Padme) are all idealistic, courageous Gryffindors. Yes, even Anakin. I consider him to be a good example of the bad Gryffindor. But before I get sidetrack into Anakin Apologeticcs or whatever...
Han. Han is hard to place, but I think he's either a Gryffindor pretending to be a Slytherin or a Slytherin pretending to be a Gryffindor (although he Myers-Briggs as ENTP, at least inmy characterisation. Generally the NT=Ravenclaw is the strongest connection between MB typing and the Hogwatrs houses.).
Obi-Wan, I am firmly convinced, is a Hufflepuff, especially compared to the Gryffindor Qui-Gon.
Yoda. Virtual cookies for anyone who can convincingly sort Yoda. ;)

Age of Sail
Jack Aubrey is a Gryffindor, a pretty strong type IMO. Stephen is a Ravenclaw: it's the total ignorance of anything (ie all things naval) that's not his 'fandom' that convinced me of his geekish credentials.

If Anakin is my quintessential Bad Gryff, then Hornblower is my quintessential Good Slytherin. Or, at least, Slytherin with autorial approval. Ambitious, check. Cunning, check (unless it's to do with women :) ). Self-centered, check. Book!Hornblower, that is. TV!Hornblower comes off as pratically Gryffindor, IMO, but that's because one of Slytherin!Book!HH's ambitions is to appear as this fearless, noble Gryffindor type. At which he has varying degrees of success.

Bush, bless him, is a Hufflepuff. I am of the opinion that Voldemort out to concentrate on Hufflepuff Minions instead of Slytherin ones catching Cunning Plots left, right, and centre. Puffs make wonderful Minions, and where would HH be without his long-suffering Bush?
Barbara, IMO, is a Gryffindor, and poor Maria is so featureless she's hard to pin down.

Dorothy L Sayers
Peter and Harriet are both Ravenclaw, IMO. Bunter is another of those Hufflepuff sidekicks so invaluble to authors. (Jeeves, OTOH, is so Slytherin. Bertie Wooster, I haven't a notion.

Jane Austen
I could be at this all week. I will just say that Anne Elliot and Fanny Price are Hufflepuffs, and Emma IMO is Ravenclaw. I'm sure lots of you have opinions on the Austenverse. :D

Antonia Forest
The Marlow family ethos is predominantly Gryffindor (something to do with all those gallant naval forebears, perhaps? Tim Keith would doubtless have an opinion). Peter, for one, feels he has trouble living up to this. I know [livejournal.com profile] rose_and_lizard has all but the twins as Gryfindors, but I would make exceptions myself.
I would sort Giles, Rowan, Ginty, Peter and Nicola as Gryffindors. Peter and Ginty not for their conspicious courage, but because of the value they place on it, although they usually confuse it with fearlessness. I'm most dilatory about Ginty, since she shows a Ravengeek tendency to live inside her own fantasy world.
Karen is a Ravenclaw, with some Slytherin tendencies (see A Ready-Made Family for a couple of examples, and Cricket Term for Nicola's comment on this.
Ann is a Hufflepuff to end all Hufflepuffs. I believe the girl actually enjoys doing the work of Peter, Ginty and Lawrie on top of her own.
Lawrie, Slytherin. It's the lack of interest in anything no connected with Lawrence S. Marlow. However, she does have a Luna-like dislocation with reality at times. (Lawrie and Luna in the same fic. Now there's a scary thought).
Tim, also Slytherin, though of a different type than Lawrie. Miranda, Ravenclaw, I think. Patrick, Ravenclaw, most probably. Open to argument on all these last.

Anyone have thoughts to add?

[livejournal.com profile] living_force and [livejournal.com profile] padawanroo both want a rant on the post-RotJ EU. It will come, I promise. Just give me a few days to gather my thoughts ;)
I just got The Well of Lost Plots by Jasper Fford out of the library. I think the premise of it a charming idea: that all the characters of fiction, and potential fiction, exist together in a sort of L-space. I was less happy about the Spoilers )

A major potentiality of thi setup would be scenarios that could never take place in-universe. minor spoilers )
Or how about those cross-over bunnies where you would love to see the characters interacting, but have no plot nor plausible way to intersect the universes. One could have Frodo and Luke Skywalker giving Harry Potter tips on the Hero's Journey (Watch your fingers, kid), Hercule Poirot deducing who stole the Silmarilli, or a gathering of fictional Jacobites from the 1745 rising (they probably outnumber the real ones). Or, round up fictional military and naval officers of the Revolutionary and Napoleonic wars—and turn Lydia Bennet loose among them! Can you imagine poor Hornblower, for example, fleeing to find some nice safe dowagers he could play whist with? Sharpe, on the other hand, would take her in his stride. Hmm...plot bunnies...
[livejournal.com profile] doyle_sb4 once made a list of all her Buffy ships—I believe it came to the fifties. I doubt I have that many in all my fandoms. Let me count, shall I?

My Ships )

Sixteen in total, out of three fandoms. 5.33 ships per fandom. Doyle, you have me run into the ground.
In the RotJ novelization, when the heroes are trying to persuade the Ewoks to help them attack the Empire, do you know what Leia says?

'Do it because of the trees.'

LOLOL!! Well, I suppose Leia and Han would ship R/H (theirlovesaresoparallel)
Luke I somehow see as being Swiss. (This is like [livejournal.com profile] bbennett's From a Certain Point of View in reverse!)
Lando...hmm...probably R/H. But as he's like Draco, he'd probably ship Draco/Anything in a skirt. :D
Chewie is of course Hagrid, and would probably also ship R/H.
Padmé...H/Hr, I think. Anakin and Obi-Wan...don't have a clue, though Obi's a non-shipper is suppose.

Question: Would Luke ship H/G? ;) You know, a Luke/Ginny crossover would be cool--has anyone ever seen one?

1 month today!! Bring ON the GINNY! And the R/H!

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