DVD-style commentary on Rebel Heart, chapter five, for [livejournal.com profile] ankaret. Sorry I've taken so long!


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Okay, anyone up for any more? Fanfic's under this tag.

*glee*

Dec. 19th, 2007 10:55 pm
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Funniest thing on Radio One today: Silent Night, sung by Chewbacca the Wookiee.

-_O

Ok, flist

Jun. 29th, 2007 01:27 pm
owl: Stylized barn owl (luke_ooc)
Right, I'm in the mood to point and mock, so where is all the Spoilers for Sacrifice )

There has to be some happening somewhere.
I am rather chuffed to notice that Children of Hurin has made the Tesco's value books list. A mythological tale by an author who's been dead for 30 years. I suppose it might be the incest factor.

I happened to be in the children's section of Waterstone's the other day and the done thing is to cash in on Harry Potter—2/3 of the books are about magic. Hardly an issue novel in sight. This started me thinking a bit: loads and loads of children's fantasy, but very little children's sf. Are children just not considered capable of understanding enough science to make it worthwhile?

A couple of quick recs:

[livejournal.com profile] matril ponders common complaints about the SW prequels.

Back to Where You Once Belonged, DW fic by [livejournal.com profile] sensiblecat. One of the best fics I've read about the Doctor and Martha stranded in 1969. Just enough angst, and a great Martha.

And then came 1969, and suddenly there was absolutely no money, and more time than they knew what to do with.

[livejournal.com profile] significantowl has Ten/Martha recs here.
I was reading someone's feminist essay recently (Can't link it, I've forgotten where it is). The premise was that our stories are missing archetypes. It's okay to be a Princess or a Warrior Maiden, but not a Queen or a Mother, because once you hit 30 or give birth, you become a nonentity. There are no mothers in fairy-tales.

Looking at Star Wars, it fits the bill. All the mothers die. Shmi dies, Padmé dies, even Aunt Beru dies. I don't think it's an accident that the woman are killed as the Empire grows stronger.

Rebel Heart-I mean the Rebel Heart that exists in my head and on scrappy bits of paper, which I've never got around to posting on the net-RH doesn't fit terribly well to that; in fact it's the opposite. There isn't a single adult male in there who possesses a personality.

My protagonist I think is a Warrior Maiden (although a distinctly geeky one) and therefore not interesting to the purposes of this discussion, although I find her interesting. Her mother, sadly, goes neatly into the stereotype, including being offed by the Empire; even worse, she's not only dead, she had premarital sex-though the big issue was the premarital conception-and died. (She was in the Alderaanian counter-espionage and when K. was about 2 years old it got a bit good and the Imps took it out). The reason for this was partly that I wanted Keiten to be able to remark to the relevant Skywalker, "My father could be Palpatine" and partly because I always knew she'd been brought up by her grandmother.

Said grandmother, Shamma, née Miridh Eredesa, walked into the fic, and my head, with her personality complete from the beginning. She started out as a penniless orphaned teenage aristocrat, and finished as CEO of Abram Trade and Transport, wealthy, powerful, and a trusted associate of Bail Organa, having survived poverty, husband's death, the Clone Wars, daughter's death, raising 4 children, a granddaughter and Bail Organa, but unfortunately not surviving the Death Star. She's totally committed to the Rebellion, willing to use her company and her family in its service. She's very intelligent, tough, she has iron self-control, is somewhat abrasive, and she's expert at managing (or manipulating) people. If she was also young and nubile she'd be a giant Mary Sue, but when your character is 73 years old you can get away with these things.

Her sister-in-law Kerith is a similar formidable old woman, which is probably why they don't get along too well. Even though she's against the Empire, she puts ATT in front of the Alliance and her family in front of ATT. Most of said family are terrified of her.

Aunt #1 was created to plague Keiten about Wimmin Stuff, ie clothes. Being married to an Avram, she designs them and has several boutiques. She has occasional aspiration to domestic goddesshood, during which her ungrateful offspring turn up on Shamma's doorstep looking for "normal food". In default of a daughter of her own, she likes to dress Keiten, who is sadly uncooperative.

Aunt #2 is an historian. She took time off to have her sons, and found on her return that the Palpatine Revisionist Text had come in the meantime. She is understandably bitter about this, as it seriously damaged her chances of publication. She went off and had Arkos and after he was in school concentrated on sneaking subversive ideas into her students' heads. Integrity is very important to her; she's completely straightforward. In any trivial matter you can rely on her to have the opposite opinion to Aunt Shosha. For example, clothes are just a means of keeping you warm and covered. She's a little sorry for Keiten, and tends to worry about her.

Assorted other second cousins, great-great aunts/uncles, cousins once and twice removed are mentioned, or have walk-on parts.

Now look at the men:

Keiten's father: He's not Obi-Wan Kenobi. Really. And he's dead.

Her grandfather is dead. He must have had a personality in order to survive life with Shamma (mind you, he only did so for 25 years), but I have no inkling of it. He did well by Avram Trade and Transport however.

Uncle #1: a Strict nonentity. Manager in ATT.

Uncle #2: a Nice nonentity. Accountant for ATT.

Uncle #3: a Complete nonentity. Possibly doesn't work for ATT.

Oh dear. However! There are 6 male cousins.

Lusar is the eldest; he's 5 years older than Keiten, and she hero-worships him. He's basically a good kid: does well at school, looks out for the younger ones, studies law at university (it'll come in handy for ATT to have a lawyer of their own in a few years), marries a nice girl, has a kid and gets blown up by the Death Star.

Phenn is a bit of a problem child. You won't catch him joining the family firm; he studied language and literature at university, but he doesn't go into academics like his mother; he joins the Rebellion, but has a tendency to wander off in the middle of missions and argue with his commanding officer. He's smart-mouthed and short-tempered and, like a lot bright kids, a little lazy.

To make a snap comparison, Avrams are pragmatic and Eredesas are idealists. Phenn is Darth Eredesa (although, let's face it, Shamma it's exactly your sweet old granny either). Dan is Avram to the backbone. He's quiet and gentle and reserved. Keiten and he are only a year apart, and they get on well together. He likes maths for its own sake (he tells his family interesting facts about numbers), but due partly to emulating his father and partly due to a desire to be employable, ends up doing accountancy. He gets sick in space travel, which might possibly have something to so with why he doesn't go off hauling cargo to the Rebellion when Phenn and Keiten do. He feels guilty about this, even though his talents are really in creative book-keeping. He suspects he's actually a coward, although he'd never say so to anyone.

The other three are younger than Keiten. Ged is the son of the Strict nonentity and the clothes designer. He's about a year and a half younger than Keiten.

Benedh and Arkos are about the same age, and they hang out together. They're quite young when Alderaan is destroyed, and I have a feeling they sit in their rooms listening to emo music.

In other characters, there's the canon crew, and Keit's friend's Ari and Vega. Vega's another Warrior Maiden, I suppose; she's tender of her friends and is fond of a good gossip about the X-wing pilots.
Ari-well, Keit thinks Ari is pretty near perfect. He's caring, funny, cute, he doesn't annoy her the way Phenn does and he doesn't complain about doing the washing-up. Sadly, he's a bit oblivious in the romance department. He still doesn't really count as an adult male, though, as he's only 23 at latest appearance.

So there it is, the opposite of canon SW: the fathers are all dead. Although when the canon characters appears, it reverts: Bail has a character and Breha is a nonentity. Mind you, when I wrote the fic, we didn't even know her name, and I'm don't like guessing and being Jossed.

I went back and read a bit of RH and realised that, heh, not much of this stuff actually appears in the original fic. Must get around to the Extended Edition sometime. Mind you, it's not that there were any adult males in the original, it's just that apart from Shamma, there are hardly any adults at all. One character who's nicknamed "Grandfather" Keit guesses to be "about thirty", and she's probably overestimating, given that she's 17 at the time.

I'm a bit bothered by the fate of her mother now. She still has to be dead, but should I change the illegitimate bit? K. still can't going to have a father around (she has quite enough relatives around already, thanks, and she has to stay an Avram).
The big issue of the last week or so was the case of Lori Jareo, who self-published her Star Wars fanfic and put it up for sale on amazon.com. She's probably the most notorious fanficcer in the world by now. Most of Star Was fandom and the ficcing world is talking about her, generally using synonyms of "stupid" and "idiot".

The responses I wanted to talk about weren't from ficcers, who were mostly concerned about the bad name this fool would give to the rest of fanfic. I was surfing a couple of blogs which have a wider audience, and I kept coming across comments like these:

She should have replaced the names and called it a homage, like real first-time writers do
Er, no. If your hero uses "the Power" to hypnotise people and move rocks around, is an orphan from a desert planet, with a long-lost twin sister and a mysterious enemy with a bad breathing problem, then no publishers will touch it, and even if they did, Lusasfilm would slap you down so hard, you bounce. Do you think it's going to fool the BBC if your thousand-year-old alien with as many lives as a cat travels through time and space in a red telephone box called the SIDRAT, and his mortal enemies shout "ANNIHILATE" before they zap people dead with their dishmops?

You can probably "file off the serial numbers" until the story is about "war in space", "crazy time travellers", or "wizards at school", but by that time, will it be interesting? People who want to write about Yoda or Daleks won't be satisfied with producing generic SF. The "serial numbers", the instantly recognisable characters and settings, are what draws them. They want more Doctor Who or Harry Potter, not something vaguely reminiscent of it. Anyway, even if all the bits that employ copyright lawyers are removed, what's left is probably as derivative as The Sword of Shannara.

Fanfic is a waste of time. It's not even any good for teaching anyone to write original work
You know, I've never met anyone who says, 'I want to write an original novel, but I've used up all my writing ability on fanfic!' Of course there are people who keep saying they're going to do an original but never start (like me), but are they any different from all the people who talk about their great novel idea they've never got around to writing? If you really want to write an original, and have the ability to do so, fanfic isn't going to stop you. And it might be a better novel. Beginning writers often perpetrate annoyingly flawless protagonists, purple prose, sloppy plotting and poor characterisation. However, if it's do as Malfoylvrr88, the situation is not irretrievable. If you are a writer, if you are becoming a writer, then you write and you write and you write. If you are trying to improve as a writer, it doesn't matter if you're practising on fic or originals. All right, fanfic isn't going to teach you worldbuilding. The backcloth is already in place. But the mechanics of writing, on the levels of prose, plot, characterisation, and structure—yes, if your betas know their job, and you are able to view your own writing with a critical mindset.

The thought of a first novel written by a twenty-four-year-old does not tend to inspire confidence. But a twenty-four-year-old who's been writing fic for ten years—Writing fic gets you past the Mary Sue stage. It can teach how to produce coherent prose in a recognisable language, how to avoid the azure orbs school of descriptive writing, how to structure a paragraph, a chapter and a novel, how to handle several subplots, how to write an action scene, how to gain readers' sympathy, how to write a consistent character. It doesn't matter if the character was originally written by someone else; if you can write Hermione Granger of the Fifth Doctor so that they're recognisable as their canonical selves, then you can probably create a self-consistent character over the length of a novel. At the very least, it's a stretching exercise, like writing 500 words in the style of Hemingway or Tolkien.

That is in the best case, where a writer wants to improve in fanfiction, where betas and concrit do their proper job. We've all seen little ego-stroking societies of mutual adoration, or authors who treat criticism like an attempt to mutilate their children, or mediocre writers with hundreds of fans. But this isn't confined to fanficcers—Ann Rice? Dan Brown, anyone? No matter how bad your fic is, there's always an archive that will take it (the Pit of Voles, for one). It doesn't have to rot in 87 slush piles, and you needn't get any rejection letters, unless you submit it to a moderated archive. But the rules of the real world still apply to some extent. If it's crap, people usually won't read it. If it's ludicrous, it will be mocked. If you submit it to a an archive, you may get an email saying 'it's plagiarised/dreck/we don't take Pokemon cross-overs'. Such is life. Bounce off that a few times, and hopefully you won't send death threats to publishing houses that turn down your magnum opus.

Fanfic 'dilutes' the original creation. It will lose the original creator money.
Oh, tosh. The writers and readers of fanfic are the ones with borderline-obsessive interest in the source material. They're the ones who've seen the film 18 times, own all the DVDs, the collectable figurines, the magazines....Fanfic is the methadone they go for when they can't get enough of the real thing. It fills in the gaps and extends into the happily-ever-after and past into the past, explores the scenarios that never happened. It's not going to replace the original work; it's always still there, and the vast majority of the money-paying public don't even know it's there and wouldn't be interested if they did. Sure, you can cut your epic Rise of the Sith into 100-word chunks on Powerpoint, shove it into a data projector and try to get people to pay to see it instead of Revenge of the Sith. Good luck.
This is the last part of this fic that I've written, but I didn't copyright the idea. I didn't even make up the questions; I got them from a real email survey that was doing the rounds. So if anyone wants to run with it, that's fine by me. Drop me a link!


Previous chapters:
1. Padmé
2. Anakin
3. Chancellor Palpatine
4. Obi-Wan
5. Yoda
6. Old Ben
7. Luke
8. Vader
9. Han Solo
10. Wedge Antilles
11. His Highness the Supreme Emperor Palpatine
12. Commander Luke Skywalker
13. Princess Leia
14. Artoo-Detoo












From: C3PO@droidnet.com --main-computer.endor.alliance.net--
To: organa@alliance.net, R2isthebest@droidnet.com, sexy_scoundrel@galacticmail.com, skywalker_l@alliance.net


NAME: See-Threepio, human-cyborg relations.

NICKNAMES: My correct designation is See-Threepio, but General Solo will insist on calling me 'Goldenrod'. Oh, the humiliation!
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Previous chapters:
1. Padmé
2. Anakin
3. Chancellor Palpatine
4. Obi-Wan
5. Yoda
6. Old Ben
7. Luke
8. Vader
9. Han Solo
10. Wedge Antilles
11. His Highness the Supreme Emperor Palpatine
12. Commander Luke Skywalker
13. Princess Leia












From: R2isthebest@droidnet.com --main-computer.endor.alliance.net--
To: C3PO@droidnet.com, skywalker_l@alliance.net


NAME: Artoo-Detoo.

NICKNAMES: Artoo, 'bucket of bolts', 'overweight greaseball', (both Threepio) 'short and round' (General Solo)

SEX: Technically neuter, as I'm a droid, but people usually refer to me as 'he'.
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I've just realised that I never finished posting this fic. It's been going since last June...


Previous chapters:
1. Padmé
2. Anakin
3. Chancellor Palpatine
4. Obi-Wan
5. Yoda
6. Old Ben
7. Luke
8. Vader
9. Han Solo
10. Wedge Antilles
11. His Highness the Supreme Emperor Palpatine
12. Commander Luke Skywalker














From: organa@alliance.net
To: ackbar@calamari.alliance.net, a.cracken@intelligence.secret, antilles_wedge_rogue@alliance.net, avram_k@alliance.net, calrissian@smoothoperator.com, celchu_t@alliance.net, fearsome_wookiee@galacticmail.com, madine_c@alliance.net, mothma@alliance.net, rieekan_c@alliance.net, skywalker_l@alliance.net, solo_h@alliance.net
Subject: Fw: Fw: Fw: Re: Re: Fw: Survey

NAME: Leia Organa

NICKNAMES: Princess, Your Worship, sweetheart, Your Royalness, Your Highnessness and the thousand and one other names Han comes up with. My family used to call me Leili when I was small.

SEX: Female

LIVING ARRANGEMENT: Rebel bases, apartment with Han on Coruscant. Holiday home on New Alderaan, if I ever manage to get a holiday.

HEIGHT: 5'1". Yeah, well, look at Luke—runs in the family.
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Title: A Book of My Tears
Author: [livejournal.com profile] jediowl
Rating: G
Characters: Luke, Leia, assorted Rebels
Summary: Luke having the tale of his Gallant Exploits winched out of him. Featuring Artoo the Hero, Alderaanian, hygiene on the Death Star and the reliability of written sources.
Written For: [livejournal.com profile] swhetgenathon, Character Prompt: Luke Skywalker, Story Prompt: First Meeting



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And previously:
1. Padmé
2. Anakin
3. Chancellor Palpatine
4. Obi-Wan
5. Yoda
6. Old Ben
7. Luke
8. Vader
9. Han Solo
10. Wedge Antilles
11. His Highness the Supreme Emperor Palpatine












From: skywalker_l@alliance.net
To: antilles_wedge_rogue@alliance.net, calrissian@smoothoperator.com, celchu_t@alliance.net, farr_s@alliance.net, fearsome_wookiee@galacticmail.com, janson_w@alliance.net klivian_d@alliance.net, organa@alliance.net, R2isthebest@droidnet.com, sexy_scoundrel@galacticmail.com, vader@empire.gov
Subject: Fw: Re: Re: Fw: Survey

NAME: Luke Skywalker.

NICKNAMES: Han calls me 'kid' and the Rogues call me 'boss'.
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Han
Preview:
(awake, enraged, grateful, morose & surprised)

Download it here

Han and Leia

Preview:
(angry, exhausted, giddy, mellow & sad.)

Download it here

You can find a Leia theme here. Comment & credit in your userinfo if you take any of these, thanks.

Instructions for use below cut )


The cats, Smudge and Muffin, are growing fast; not surprising considering they seem to be walking alimentary tracts. They went to the vet's for their injections yesterday, with some bloodshed. The vet just picked them up, jabbed them, and squirted them with flea-killer, while they dangled from her hand looking indignant. Smudge tends to go AWOL, but I've discovered that he usually ends up asleep on a potato sack behind the utility-room door. I've convinced Fin to climb on my knee by holding up a spoonful of kitten food, at some cost to my jeans.
And previously:
1. Padmé
2. Anakin
3. Chancellor Palpatine
4. Obi-Wan
5. Yoda
6. Old Ben
7. Luke
8. Vader
9. Han Solo
10. Wedge Antilles












From: i_rule_the_galaxy_mwahahaha@empire.gov
To: skywalker_l@alliance.net, organa@alliance.net, sexy_scoundrel@galacticmail.com, vader@empire.gov
Subject: Re: Fw: Re: Re: Fw: Survey

Subject: Survey


NAME: Supreme Emperor Palpatine, Ruler of the Galaxy.

NICKNAMES: Your Supremeness, Most Noble and Mighty Emperor, Yes, My Master (that one's Vader)

SEX: Who needs sex when I have power?! UNLIMITED POWER! MWAHAHAHA!!

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Teasers



More )

Comment & credit, no hotlinking.
1. Padmé
2. Anakin
3. Chancellor Palpatine
4. Obi-Wan
5. Yoda
6. Old Ben
7. Luke
8. Vader
9. Han Solo











From: antilles_wedge_rogue@alliance.net,
To: celchu_t@alliance.net, farr_s@alliance.net, fearsome_wookiee@galacticmail.com, janson_w@alliance.net klivian_d@alliance.net, organa@alliance.net, sexy_scoundrel@galacticmail.com, skywalker_l@alliance.net
Subject: Fw: Re: Re: Fw: Survey

NAME: Wedge Antilles.

NICKNAMES: Veggies

SEX: Are you offering?
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So far:
1. Padmé
2. Anakin
3. Chancellor Palpatine
4. Obi-Wan
5. Yoda
6. Old Ben
7. Luke
8. Vader










From: sexy_scoundrel@galacticmail.com
To: antilles_wedge_rogue@alliance.net, calrissian@smoothoperator.com, fearsome_wookiee@galacticmail.com, organa@alliance.net, skywalker_l@alliance.net, vader@empire.gov
Subject: Fw: Re: Re: Fw: Survey

>From: vader@empire.gov
>To: skywalker_l@alliance.net, organa@alliance.net, sexy_scoundrel@galacticmail.com, i_rule_the_galaxy_mwahahaha@empire.gov
Subject: Fw: Re: Re: Fw: Survey



NAME: Han Solo.

NICKNAMES: Slick.

SEX: As much as possible.
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So far:
1. Padmé
2. Anakin
3. Chancellor Palpatine
4. Obi-Wan
5. Yoda
6. Old Ben
7. Luke









From: vader@empire.gov
To: skywalker_l@alliance.net, organa@alliance.net, sexy_scoundrel@galacticmail.com, i_rule_the_galaxy_mwahahaha@empire.gov, ben@anchorhead.net
Subject: Fw: Re: Re: Fw: Survey


NAME: Lord Darth Vader.

NICKNAMES: None that anyone dares call me to my face.

SEX: May present technical difficulties.
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Recently there has been some kerfuffle of JKR's supposed slighting of the fantasy genre, and Terry Pratchett's comments. I saw both sides of the indignation, and tend to come down more on the Pterry side. Cut for length )
So far:

1. Padmé
2. Anakin
3. Chancellor Palpatine
4. Obi-Wan
5. Yoda
6. Old Ben
7. Luke









From: shootingstar2@anchorhead.net
To: ben@anchorhead.net, deak@anchorhead.net, fixer_rulz@anchorhead.net, lars@anchorhead.net, pretty_camie@anchorhead.net, shootingstar1@anchorhead.net, tank_the_pilot@anchorhead.net, windy_one@anchorhead.net
Subject: Fw: Re: Re: Fw: Survey


NAME: Luke Skywalker. Or Lars, but I prefer my father's name.

NICKNAMES: Wormy. Unfortunately.
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SAY ONE NICE THING ABOUT THE PERSON WHO SENT THIS TO YOU: Ben, my uncle says you're a crazy wizard, but I think you're kinda cool.

OF ALL THE PEOPLE YOU SEND THIS TO, WHO IS LEAST LIKELY TO RESPOND TO IT: Fixer, he beat me up again yesterday.
The spammers of inboxes that I've written so far:
1. Padmé
2. Anakin
3. Chancellor Palpatine
4. Obi-Wan
5. Yoda







From: ben@anchorhead.net
To: shooting_star2@anchorhead.net, lars@anchorhead.net, yoda@dagobahmaildrop.com, anakin@knights.jedi.org, yoda@council.jedi.org
Subject: Fw: FW: Fw: Survey

NAME: Ben Kenobi. Didn't I do one of these things twenty years ago?

NICKNAMES: Old Ben, 'that crazy wizard'.
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OF ALL THE PEOPLE YOU SEND THIS TO, WHO IS LEAST LIKELY TO RESPOND TO IT: Anakin. He ceased to exist and became Darth Vader.
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