owl: Miles Vorkosigan: We have advanced to new and surpising levels of bafflement (milesbaffled)
only a sinner saved by grace ([personal profile] owl) wrote2007-11-14 11:52 pm

The disadvantage of authors adding to a series

I was trying to read Mirror Dance the other day and failing—I can only read it from after Miles' death and even then it's hard going except for my favourite scenes (Gregor and Mark, Ivan crying in the garden, Miles going manic when he gets his memory back). Similarly I can't read the first few chapters of Memory, I have to start just after the scene in Illyan's office. Anyway, I was slogging away towards Aral's heart attack, and I started to wonder if the announced next Vorkosigan book is going to be the one in which LMB finally kills him off. Because on the scale of 'worst possible things' the only thing above Aral's death I can think of is Ekaterin or the twins being killed (or Miles, again, I suppose). Um. There's always Gregor being assassinated, I suppose, which would be almost as bad as Miles but would have worse consequences for Barrayar as a whole.

After that I couldn't read any of the books, not even the happier ones. The downside of an open canon. I mean, I like the thought of a Vorkosiverse story, but is it worth all the anxiety beforehand? Best case for me I suppose would be for the focus not to be on the Vorkosigans. Shame she finds Ivan so slippery to write, he's getting rather interesting of late. And I'd like to know what the rest of the Dendarii are getting up to.

[identity profile] frankie-ecap.livejournal.com 2007-11-15 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with all of this. Will comment tomorrow to chat when conscious again, but just quickly: very pi of me but can't help thinking you should maybe cut this for those who haven't read the series?

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[identity profile] frankie-ecap.livejournal.com 2007-11-15 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
That was very direct of you!

[identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com 2007-11-15 08:19 am (UTC)(link)
Gregor having one of his children kidnapped is the worst thing that could happen to him. And Ivan marrying someone exactly like his mother is the surely worst that could happen to him. I'm kind of sorry there's going to be a new book, actually, I really feel as if the story has ended, with them all alive and happy.

[identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com 2007-11-15 09:59 am (UTC)(link)
Does it strike you that Gregor is over-reacting a little to Nikki's comm-call in ACC?

It's the thing most likely to press all his buttons, isn't it? "Can anyone tell me why Nikki thought he was being kidnapped against his mother's will?" Gregor is usually so hands-off, but if anything is going to make him throw the whole weight of the Imperium around, it's going to be that. I hope it exorcised any lingering demons. God, LMB really is clever!

I have nothing to base this on, but I have a feeling the publishers want a new Vorkosigan book when the author would rather be doing other things.

[identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com 2007-11-15 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I bet he was sitting there quietly freaked out waiting for them to turn up.

Ooh, good point. Now there's a vignette begging to be written.

[identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com 2007-11-16 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Gah, and there was I hoping you'd get nibbled by the plot-bunny! NaNo for me, right now!

[identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com 2007-11-17 09:39 am (UTC)(link)
I was reading your two ficathon stories again last week: I reread them very often and love them every time. Your dialogue is exceptionally good.

[identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com 2007-11-20 11:56 am (UTC)(link)
Do you think I put in enough emotions and faces and stuff in the dialogue bits?

Hmm, I'm probably not the best person to ask as I tend to write the same way: lots of dialogue, less in the way of description. I definitely had a strong sense of people's emotions and so on; anyway, I tend to supply that myself and find too much description intrudes on how I'm imagining the scene.


BTW, was it you that said s/he didn't like the Cordelia + Gregor part as well as Aral + Gregor?

Not me, I adored them both.

[identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com 2007-11-22 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
Sometimes ficathons are like Christmas, all you end up with is a pair of socks.

Well, I definitely got proper Christmas, turkey and all the trimmings, and great satisfaction and contentment at the end :-)


I'm having a little difficulty in getting his 35-year-old voice

Well, speaking as a 35 year old...(!) I think being this age is all about still feeling young, while starting to enjoy the perspective that comes from experience. In terms that might be significant for Gregor: perhaps the pleasure of realizing that he has stopped performing or faking being "the Emperor" and has finally become it? And in a way that hasn't, in the end, cost him himself.
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[personal profile] coughingbear 2007-11-15 08:43 am (UTC)(link)
I'm much the same as you with Memory, definitely can't read the first chapters when he makes the mistake and makes the decision to lie about it and I hurry through the next bit. After Illyan's office I'm OK (and I do think it's a wonderful book).

I do dread Aral's death. But I would like to see more of Sergyar and him and Cordelia there, and I am hoping that (as has happened before) Bujold thinks of something else entirely to do to people. If there is more Mark and Ivan I will also be pretty happy. But I was surprised when she said there'd be another one as I thought she'd fairly much finished with Miles.

[identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com 2007-11-15 10:02 am (UTC)(link)
I'd like to see Ekaterin and Laisa make friends. Now I think about it, what I would really like a book of short stories, focusing on extended family characters (in the widest sense of family), or unusual combinations of characters. A book of things like Winterfair Gifts.

[identity profile] altariel.livejournal.com 2007-11-15 07:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Like a ficathon, only done by Lois so that we don't have too ;-D

[identity profile] significantowl.livejournal.com 2007-11-15 12:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel like I read somewhere that she said she'd been putting off another Miles book because it would take Aral's death to drive another narrative for him. (No idea where I read that and it's definitely paraphrased.) :(