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That really was not bad. Shows what going in with low expectations does for you.

-Plot was about as solid as candy-floss, but hey. I liked that the villain was using a weight-loss company as cover. As opposed to, say, humorously farting fat people.

-The whole missing each other thing was a bit overdone, especially with them both popping their heads out of the cubicles to look for the printer. The talking silently across the room was great, though.

-The Adipose babies were really rather sweet.

-I liked Donna's grandfather and his telescope. and that he was looking in totally the wrong direction to see the alien ship, but he saw the TARDIS

-I liked Donna's l33t investigatory skillz. Not keen on her doing it solely to find the Doctor.

-I liked her mum's 'Oh, not another bloody alien invasion' attitude.

-I LOVED the 'Well, you're not mating with ME, sunshine!' line. Stick with it, Donna!

-The Doctor admitted that he messed up with Martha. And that she was good for him. Heh.

-I did NOT expect to see Rose so early in the series. Looks like she's in the Cyberverse, but the walls are thin. Or something. Rose, you'd better not be causing this, you hear me? You're investigating for Torchwood, right? If you're breaking two universes to get back to your boyfriend I shall lose what little of my squee for you that remains.

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I thought it was a most entertaining episode. Not exactly a weighty thing with any great message or emotional impact, but entertaining. And at least a million times better than that thrice-damned Christmas special.

Which special, Runaway Bride or the Kylie one? Anc yeah, it was miles away better than the Kylie one.

I thought it was slight but not actually groanworthy, which is about all I expect of a RTD-written episode. Also, I'm always happy to see Bernard Cribbins, though I do hope we get less irritating soap opera with the companions' families this series.

The miming through the door definitely played to Catherine Tate's strengths - it was pretty obvious at several points in the episode that she'd had a good decade's acting experience over either Freema Agyeman or Billie Piper. I thought she was a bit unwarrantedly screechy with the 'You want to mate?' line, but I'm glad they sorted out upfront that there isn't going to be yet more gooey unrequited love.

I liked Donna a lot here. The screeching is toned down a lot from the Christmas special. And word on the no unrequited rubbish thing. Now, stick to it, Donna!

My spec on the Rose appearance: the universes are merging together, so people are appearing as 'ghosts' (like the Cybermen did, but with more power behind it this time) at areas where the separation between the universe is particularly thin - maybe because the TARDIS is warping it? The alt-Torchwood know something's going on and Rose was investigating one of these sightings when a woman, from her point of view, spoke to her then faded away - like in To the Last Man, where both timelines saw the other as solid ghosts.

Yeah, that sounds pretty likely. I like the idea of the TARDIS affecting it. Suppose we'll see in good time :)

Sorry, but I think she is looking for the Doctor. She looked so disappointed when she walked away - it looked like an emotional thing to me.

Plus, I like the idea that she's doing it to get back to him. Doing something Torchwood would be so mundane.

I prefer to think that Rose's integrity and, oh, not destroying two universes is more important to her than finding her boyfriend.

Have no faith in Team Cardiff doing that, though. It would be interesting if they were to do Evil Rose, but I really can't see them doing that.

How do you know that it's destroying two universes, what she's doing? Maybe she's found a safe way to come through - it's obviously different to what she's doing before. I would have thought the Doctor would have noticed if she was destroying them right under his nose. ;)

Evil Rose? I doubt it. It what way 'evil'? RTD loves Rose too much to do that... although he was perfectly happy to leave her stranded and sobbing on a beach in the parallel world. *sighs*

The Doctor explicity said in Doomsday that there was no way through without destroying both universes, and that's backed up by the fact that he hasn't even tried to get back to Rose. Even if someone at Rose's Torchwood is smarter than the Doctor, however brilliant the theory they couldn't know for sure until they turned it on that their universe-hopping method wouldn't kill everyone in both universes, and I can't imagine Rose would risk killing countless trillions (and the Doctor, and herself) just to get back to the Doctor, or that Pete, Mickey and everyone else on her side of the barrier would let her. If there's something major going on in the other world, though - like they're at war with the Daleks, and Rose is trying to get a warning to the Doctor - then that'd be more understandable. Although I don't think she was looking for the Doctor at all, or she would have been at least moving around, not just standing at a police cordon.

Yes, I remember that - Rose said "So?" and the Doctor thought she was joking.

However, we don't know for sure that she's destroying both universes - you can't make that assumption until you've watched it and know for sure. For now, it's just speculation, and for all we know, Rose can pop through without damaging anything to look for the Doctor/save her universe/whatever she may be doing. And, Lord knows, the Doctor's been wrong before.

Also - we had a thirty second shot of her, and that was at the end of her trip. I have a sneaking suspicion that maybe she didn't come through just to stand at a police cordon. It may be just me, but it might be plausible that she moved around before standing at the police cordon. ;)

It was such a fun episode.

Ryan and I were doing David Tennant impressions when Rose showed up. :p

I guess Torchwood has certain unchangeable qualities. :p

Yeah, Torchwood: Screwing with space and time since 1879

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