RotS blues

Mar. 19th, 2005 07:07 pm
owl: woe is the Doctor (woe)
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I'm feeling so un-psyched about RotS at the moment.

What all the spoilers I've heard are saying is that Anakin Force-chokes Padmé, she goes into labour and dies. But AotC sets up people die>>Anakin goes growly>>Imperial March plays, so the thing I would expect would be padme to appear to die in some way that obiwan/the jedi was responsible for and voila, instant Jedi purge. You have to use the gun on the table: if you set up a particular situation in an earlier part, then you have to use it later. What is the point in establishing that Anakin goes Tuskan when people he loves die, if he's just going to turn into Vader for some political reason?

I knew from the 'goodbye mommy' scene in TPM that Shmi was going to die. How come I guessed so wrong this time around? Anyway, it's stupid medically. People don't die of stragulation hours after the fact.

And the whole, you-kill-my-family-you-die thing? Was there in the OT too. The immediate catalyst for Vader turning back to the light side was Palpatine's attempt at killing Luke. It would make sense if he went to the dark side because he thought he had lost his wife and offspring, considering that in the OT he finds Luke again, and he turns back. And Luke loves him the way Padmé did: unconditionally. They are both his good angels.

So, if Luke is giving him back what he lost when he became Vader...it just makes so much more sense artistically for Padmé to die before he goes to the dark side. Lucas, whatever you might say about his dialogue, is usually good at pure story. Has he finally dropped the balls? Did all the complaints that Anakin 'wasn't evil enough' finally get to him?

I'm just hoping that when I go to the cinema on 19/05 that it was all slot into place.

Date: 2005-03-19 07:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alphabet26.livejournal.com
I'm so about to show my ignorance of things Star Wars, so forgive me here.

And the whole, you-kill-my-family-you-die thing? Was there in the OT too.

Isn't that also what triggered Luke as well? I mean, he'd wanted adventure, but it was the murder of Owen and Beru that really drove him, right? Like the Hand Puppet Movie Theatre (http://www.jerrythefrogproductions.com/StarWars.html) says, "Obi-Wan: I would stop Luke from going home, but we still need that Hero's Motivation thing..."

I'm just saying that your scenario would seem even more consistent with what we already know. But again, I am a total ignoramus when it comes to Star Wars.

Date: 2005-03-19 09:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyaeryn.livejournal.com
Actually, rather a point seems to be made that Padme doesn't die of the choke, which is backed up by a scan I saw from the RotS kids' book that says Palpatine is lying to Anakin when he says Anakin killed her. According to spoilers all damage to her body is repaired, but for reasons that baffle the med-droids she's still dying anyway. And a fellow A/P-er on TFN actually wrote LFL on the matter and got a response from Lynne Hale that says straight up that Padme dies of a broken heart.

That still doesn't make me much happier on the choke aspect, though.

Date: 2005-03-20 03:46 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] yubsie
Don't forget the fact that Leia is supposed to REMEMBER Padme. :p

Date: 2005-03-27 11:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thehighbrow.livejournal.com
I agree with both [livejournal.com profile] ladyaeryn and [livejournal.com profile] yubsie.

What you're reading are spoilers, after all, and those should always be taken with a bit of doubt until you actually see the real thing. I see what you mean by having Anakin turn evil after Padmé has died, but it plays more into the theme of being overwhelmed by anger if Anakin gets to the point where he cannot even control himself, even around somebody as dear to him as Padmé.

As well, I think that having Padmé die because of a broken heart is much more devastating than by having her killed by Palpatine. This would mean, then, that Anakin would have to start his journey into corruption before her death.
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