Anakin

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I don't really like the implication that Anakin was conceived via Darth Plagious' manipulations. I liked thinking of him as the son of the Force itself, not some genetically-engineered cogwheel in the Sithly Cunning Plan (TM). Although I suppose it is irony, that the man designed to be the Sith's ultimate weapon ended up destroying them forever. But I still liked it better the other way. At least it wasn't stated outright. And, as ladyaeryn pointed out, it may all have been a lie. Palpatine is not noted for his sterling truthfulness.

Comments

[ladyaeryn.livejournal.com]

This would go by the assumption that Palps was telling the truth about the whole creating-life story to begin with - I'm not convinced it was anything more than a huge load of bull that Palps was selling.

[owl]

There's that too. I'd forgotten about it while I was posting.

[living-force.livejournal.com]

I'm with LA on assuming Palps was shoveling nonsense. I think if it were true it would kind of detract from the whole Chosen One/Son of the Suns concept. I too like the idea of someone who was created by the Force for the purpose of destroying the Sith.

I also think it could detract from what Lucas was trying to establish with the Prequels - that being Anakin wasn't born evil. While this may not change that, it still could be seen as tainting the character a bit. The tragedy of the story is that it was a good person, full of promise, who fell to the Dark Side - the concept that he was created by the Sith would detract from that.

Mainly I just don't see how it makes sense. Unless the Sith weren't sure what they were doing or where their creation would spring to life, I'm not sure how Anakin's early years and discovery by the Jedi fit into Palpatine's plan. I mean, yes, it worked out for the Sith (in the short run ;)), but it seemed more like serendipity than anything.

[hymnia.livejournal.com]

Ditto.

And--slightly OT--I like the way Luke in your mood pic is looking right up at Anakin in your icon. :)

[skywalker-child.livejournal.com]

Anakin wasn't born evil...he was created by evil. That's different I think. To get all...whatever, Satan was created by God. Satan wasn't good, he chose evil. Just like everyone else chose their paths. Does that make sense? Offense unintended, if any was perceived.

[living-force.livejournal.com]

Right, I understand completely. I just personally think the story sounds better if he was, as orignally understood, this being created by the Force for the sake of destroying the Sith. That makes the fall much more tragic to me. He was good, he was full of promise, but the combination of poor choices/judgement on his part combined with bad handling by his mentors made it entirely easy for Palpatine's manipulations to work.

No offense taken at all. :)

[hymnia.livejournal.com]

(The "ditto" was supposed to be a reply to ladyaeryn's comment.)

[lazypadawan.livejournal.com]

I agree with LA...Palpie was a lying sack of poodoo.

[leeflower.livejournal.com]

remember how Palps grins when Vader finds out about Padme's death? Personally, I read that as "Way to save me from having to justify my lie about that whole creating life thing!"

He's a liar. Liar-liar-sword's-on-fi-re!

[anthon1.livejournal.com]

There are several options here: one is that Palps created Anakin; one is that he was lying; one is that Darth Plagious the Wise did the deed.

I think it was Pruneface that did the deed, because the Force doesn't ever manifest itself physically, as Anikan would then be. But, the question remains, why did Palpy do it?

Because he was a pawn of the Force, and the Force needed a... crucible, a pivot, a catalyst. A shatterpoint, in the eyes of Mace Windu. And Palps had the power and the knowledge and the inclination. All that was needed was a little push.

And, of course, therein lies the ultimate irony of his existance - that the master manipulator was in fact no more than a pawn himself.

[jedi-girl1975.livejournal.com]

When I saw TPM, it kind of creeped me out the way Palpy looks at Anakinand pats him on the shoulder, "We'll watch your career with great interest", like he knew something he wasn't telling. I think he lied to Anakin to further confuse him. Maybe Palpy is under the assumption that his master created Anakin.

[ravenclaw-devi.livejournal.com]

Well, I like the evil little doubt that was thrown in. Palpatine may or may not have been lying, we'll never know.

Although I suppose it is irony, that the man designed to be the Sith's ultimate weapon ended up destroying them forever.

Not only irony, it would be the ultimate "you can rise above your origins" statement - even if you're born of Sith doings, you can choose the Light.

P.S.

[ravenclaw-devi.livejournal.com]

I love your new "still good in him" icon.